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06/26/17 12:44 PM #12    

Samuel (Bob) West

Dan great idea. Let me know when and where. What can I do to help. Bob West 


06/27/17 12:00 PM #13    

 

Ted Tanner

Bob,

Bonnie & I think that's a very good Idea.  (or could be just one a year),  Thanks.


08/23/17 10:01 AM #14    

 

Charles Boydston (Chief) Boyd

Harold, may the Lord wash you with peace over Eva's homecoming.  Comfort him Lord, help him through this time of greiving and bless him with the peace that passes all human understanding!!!  In the name of Jesus!!!

Your Indian in Jesus,

Chief


12/25/17 02:01 PM #15    

 

Jimmie Brown

Professor Langley,

Well said.


12/30/17 02:46 PM #16    

 

Jimmie Brown

Very deep thoughts from Dr. Lester Dan Langley.


01/11/18 07:48 PM #17    

 

Jimmie Brown

Perfesser Danny,

Thwnks for your errfort and research.

I would be interested in all the options except golf.


01/13/18 09:26 AM #18    

 

Jimmie Brown

Fellow Borger High School 1958 classmates,

Sunday, January 14, 2018 is the 78th birthday of our classmate Richard Bostick.

He and wife Marie have endured much difficulty in the past year.

Their home was flooded during Huricane Harvey.

Then Richard fell and fractured his hip.

Currenntly, he is in therapy at:Cllear Lake Regional Medical Center, 500 W. Medical Center Blvd, Webster, TX 77598.

Richard was scheduled for hip surgery last week, but incurred pneumonia, so the surgery was cancelled. He as lost weight from 165lbs to current 124lbs.

Richard and Marie are feeling very alone due to all their tribulations.

They need our encouragement. A "Get Well Card" would certainly lift their spirits.

Marie cell phone: 281-467-6609.


01/14/18 01:06 PM #19    

Edwin Gerald Hazzard

 

Just returned from visiting Richard in Hospital. His condition is not good, but he is in good sprits. Marie has been by his side for about 2 months. She needs time for her self, I hope to releive her this week. We talked about going to the reunion together. In the mean time

FEMA is very slow in giving help toward fixing their house. They require Est of replacement furniture, before they release money for remodle... a lot of leg work. I am doing this, next week.

they will be in Hospital for several more weeks, after he gets his strength back, they plan another surgery on his hip. Then more therapy in hos. 

More later,

Gerald

 

 

 

 


01/14/18 06:22 PM #20    

 

Jimmie Brown

Gerald,

Thanks for visiting Richard and Marie today on Richard's 78th birthday.

I'm sure Marie appreciated your visit, as she has felt alone during all the tribulations they have endured with flooding of their home from Hurricane Harvey, followed by Richard's health issues.

She will sleep better tonight knowing that you are willing to assist with the FEMA documentation.

All of us BHS 1958 classmates salute your efforts.

Jimmie B. Brown

 


07/14/18 07:02 PM #21    

 

Jimmie Brown

Professor  Dan,

Thanks for your message. As always, you express your wisdom in a scholarly and amusing style. Keep 'em comin'

 


07/26/18 08:08 AM #22    

John Wilkinson

Hello Dan, I also enjoy reading your posts and would enjoy participating in your Sunday School class.  My path is somewhat similar to yours as we joined the Bozeman United Methodist Church and I became an Independent not too long ago.  This morning I read a blog by Parker Palmer that discussed the same issues we face caused by living more years.  He stated that "Wholeness does not mean perfection: It means embracing brokenness as an integral part of life."  Keep up the great work!  John W.


07/28/18 02:14 PM #23    

Samuel (Bob) West

Dan, thank you so much for your insights and opinions, they are wonderful to read. I wish you the best in your spritual quest.  As for me, I have become more liberal as I grow older. I am still a conservative on issues of economics, but on social issues I am far to the left. I live in the Redest county in Texas and am a miniority as to my political beliefs. On spritual matters I have come to look down on religion per se, but look up to people who are Christian and put their efforts to help others above their words.  It is amusing to those that know me that I belong to a Presbyterian church, while at the same time looking down my nose at theology. But, the people there have helped me find a lot of peace.  To  people that grew up in Borger, Texas I think we found faith at an early age just to survive that place, and most learned to lean on, lift up their class mates and be a part of something other than themselves.. Not to make light of anyone suffering from depression, but it has helped me to look in the mirror, and at my age feel how good it is to see a reflection of a live human being looking back. Please take care of yourself and keep sending your knowledge to the rest of us. I look forward to your new book and hope it is published soon. Bob West

 


08/24/18 03:20 PM #24    

 

Lester Dan Langley

Bob West expressed views very much like those I've heard from others. What a nation calls history a person calls memory or nostalgia, which sounds better. It really would be better to be conservative when one is young because you may not be so disappointed when things don't turn out the way you wanted or thought possible. I'm now putting the final revisions on "The Long American Revolution," which involves cutting a bloated and messy Preface in half and trying to explain at the end why I can say men, especially white males, who are as angry now as they were in 1776, are both the problem and the solution. That may be easier than an admission that I am nowadays more nostalgic about the world I was trying to leave in 1958 than I thought possible. I'm finishing my first year as a member of a local Methodist church, and it has helped immensely, but I also have to acknowledge that some things and feelings are not recoverable. It helps to take the proverbial leap of faith to accept that. As the late Bennie Hill might have said, "You play the hand you're dealt." 


09/10/18 02:44 PM #25    

Leonard Vance Moxom

no,we are moving forward in recovery,with new and rewarding markets.

 


09/11/18 11:26 AM #26    

Samuel (Bob) West

Dan.  My definition of victims is simple. Probably too simplistic. The holocost, stroke, ms, alzheimers, heart failure, drug addicition, psychopaths. The list is endless of the tradegy imposed on people beyond their control. As is the will of the majority imposed upon the minority. Physically and economically.

A child born in poverty and of a minority race (which we whites are becoming) is a victim.

I disagree with your sunday school collegues opinion about the bible having all the answers. That is hogwash to me.  The bible did not cure polio or leporsy, nor does it prevent nature or mankind from very distructive acts. 

I do not believe in a literal interpretation of that book. Anything written by any man is flawed to some degree. (shades of Winfred Moore and First Baptist Borger haunt my memory where we were taught dominoes, card games and dancing were from the devil and not approved of in the Bible, although where in that book I could not locate). As you can probably guess I am not an evangelical.

Are we victims in the United States? Not when we have the power to change our systems. Are we ignorant or lazy to allow abuse? Probably. Victims, no.  We choose and it is not imposed on us. 

Are we self de-structive? Observation and history indicates we are.

Baseball and apple pie won;t beat Atom Bombs, populations disparities, or ignorance. If we are too lazy, dumb or crazy to pay attention and not elect intelligent, moral people to govern us, we are not victims, We are suicidal.

Glad I lived in the time period I did. We had it easy. Maybe that is our problem.

Thanks for being our classmate, our brain power and spokesman. Bob West

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your outlook and questions. You make us think.  Bob West


09/14/18 01:26 PM #27    

 

Lester Dan Langley

Other members in our class who knew Richard Bostick better than I will have more to say about him, and it will be better than what I have to say, as I probably had no more than one hour of conversation with him, and most of that came from the times when he joined the Possum Kingdom gang. His even-tempered personality and disposition will make the list, as others in our class have confirmed. And most of us were aware, either from personal contact or second-hand, what he went through in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey. I do not know what church he belonged to or what his political beliefs were. I do know that I cannot imagine talking about the Class of '58 without including him, as someone who knew where he belonged and never had to ask why. In an era when everyone seems to be angry about someone or something, I never heard him utter a discouraging word. I believe that I'll hang on to the one hour of conversation I had with him. Maybe the world will look better.


09/14/18 07:48 PM #28    

 

Jimmie Brown

Our !958 classmate, Richard Bostick's, basic personality can best be described as consistent, mild, polite to all, and friendly. .Always smiling, happy, and glad to see, and visit with everyone who came in contact with him. He never said a discouranging word. Never prone to gossip. Never showed anger. Never was in a bad mood.

I will always treasure the moments in we shared in conversation of our travels, occupations, and families.

The world would be a much better place if all persons possessed and consistently displayed the posirive personality atttibutes of our classmate and friend Richard Bostick.

I feel blessed that he was a part of my life.

Richard Bostick will be missed.


10/31/18 01:38 PM #29    

 

Kenneth Cunningham

Dan -

Don't change anything.  Do it your way and they will learn something.  Be sure to send out the web site for the documents.

Kenneth


03/23/19 09:37 AM #30    

 

Jimmie Brown

Very sad to hear of the passing of Elgie Seamster. He was a wonderful happy person. Always smiling and friendly to everyone.


06/20/19 01:31 PM #31    

 

Lester Dan Langley

Too often, I confess, I've come to you for assistance. I need your help again. I'm weary of working on revolutions. I need another topic. I believe I have found it––Messiahs. For those of an ideological or spiritual "persuasion," messiahs are the equivalent of the woman looking for Mr. Goodbar. Prophets offer predictions, judgements about which way to go. Messiahs are leaders, authority figures, do it this way or the highway, as presidents of Texas A&M used to say. I believe I am appealing to the Trump nation. That's fine, because I intend to do this via comparative biographies, mostly but not exclusively of men. I intend to begin with Jesus. That's not as easy as it sounds. But I'll end with Trump. He is the messiah of one of the numerous "nations" of America. What I need from you is a comment on why you believe (or disbelieve) in the notion of Donald Trump as messiah. Tell me what "Make America Great Again" means for you. I won't argue with you. I live in a fantasy world. There are those in recovery and those who want to recover a life or purpose or feeling they believe they have lost or misplaced. I've attended all but one of our reunions. Certainly, one reason was to reconnect with all you, but a deeper and more powerful incentive was the fleeting hope that someone very special to me from our class would attend and would offer me the hope of restoring something we shared. 

 

 

 

 

 


06/21/19 07:46 AM #32    

 

Charles Boydston (Chief) Boyd

Dan,

My Messiah is Jesus!!!  Donald Trump was a client of mine, a great client, but I do not see him as a Messiah.  Let me share with you about my firms experience with Donald Trump.  We did a a project for him that was on the Missippippi River just North of the Arch.  It was a large hotel and inculded a conference center.  Architects who work with developers have a dilemna when the projects do not happen.  When the projects do not happen there is usually a battle to receive 50% of the Architectural fee for the work done.  The problem on our project was that the city council in St. Louis had a bigger ego than Mr. Trump (I know it is hard to believe but that was the case) and they kept adding infrastructure to his project to the extent that it was no longer a feasible project.  Trump said thanks but no thanks and left.  However, he thanked us for a good job and paid the entire fee without even being hounded about it.  Was he a hard and demanding client, yes but we like hard clients because they tell you what they want, then all you have to do is provide it for them.  The clients who drive us nuts are those who cannot tell us what they want.  I believe that his goal of "Making America Great Again" goes to his understanding of business.  Without a douibt, America is the greatest country the world has ever known.  What made America great and is making it great again is the business climate in our country and the way that that business has impacted not only America but the world!  That is something that Donald Trump knows and understands.  Combine that with his daily bible studies at the White House and you have an unbeatable combination of work with spiritual guidance.  I pray for him and our Nation every day!!!  He is no Messiah, but I do believe that God has chosen him to lead us during these hard times, just like he used Churchill in World War II to lead England and the world.  

Your Indian in Jesus,

Chief


06/21/19 05:25 PM #33    

 

Jimmie Brown

Charles (Chief) Boyd,

Regarding your statements of your Messiah and President Donald John Trump.....Well said!


06/24/19 02:16 PM #34    

 

Lester Dan Langley

The "thread" about Donald Trump as a messiah may have run its course, but I'll pick up on the story with a reference to the comment that "Make America Great Again" relates to this country's commitment to the marketplace and encouragement and sustenance of business. However, in a recent PBS documentary on neo-Nazi groups in this country, one interviewee stated that (for him) the phrase was code for restoration of the "white republic," which indeed was an apt description of the United States when we became a nation during the Great War. The person making the comment was thinking about race not as a social construct but literally as a reference to skin color. More to the point: Is there something about the country today that prompts us to remember how much better we believed things were when we graduated? Is "Making America Great Again" about restoration of certain values we once held that may have NOTHING to do with skin color but about a civility and public discourse that now seem alien? I retain a healthy respect for ambiguity and hypocrisy, which, as Oscar Wilde noted, is the tribute vice pays to virtue. That's one of the persistent legacies of the long American Revolution, whose transformative power pales in comparison to its seductive appeal. Yet when I dwell too long on that thought, I try to remember what George Washington felt during that ghastly winter in Valley Forge as he looked at wretched condition of his troops even as he had to beg for support from the Continental Congress or his refusal in 1783 to lead what would have amounted to a military takeover. Despite his innate aristocratic sensibilities, he retained a belief that in every person there is something of value that must be respected even as he privately expressed the view that most people were largely driven by economic motives, not ideas or religious values. That's a standard that may belie our professions, but it has served us for 250 years.


07/03/19 05:17 PM #35    

Samuel (Bob) West

Dan your intelect and as one of the premier historians in the U.S.make it difficult and intimidating to express opinions, but since you asked here are a couple of mine.

Growing up in Borger made me very resistant to people who tried to tell me what I should do, think, believe or who tried to bend me to their will or to dominate me..

As to messiahs I never personaly met one.  I especially avoid and distrust politicians.

An old story, but it expresses my belief.

A man took his son to the wise elder of the village and ask if there was a way to know what his son would become as an adult. The wise man said he had a perfect test . He put up three tables and one one he placed a dollar bill, on another a Bible, and on the last a glass of whiskey.He told the father to put his son in front of the tables and that the one his son went to would indicate his future. If he picked up the dollar he wotld be a businesman, conserrvative and perhaps wealthy. If he choose the Bible he would be deeply religious and maybe a member of the clergy. If he chose the whiskey he would be a ner do well, lacking in moral standards and bring a lot of grief to those around him.

The son approached the table. Picked up the dollar and put it in his pocket, put the Bibe under his arm, picked up the whiskey and drank it.The wise man said " on no, he is going to be a politician"

I haven't seen a lot to change my opinion over the years. Our presidents since Eisenhower have not shown me much. :Lyndon gave us Vietnam, and inspite of a lot of very brave men, inclufding classmates and my good friend Digger O'Dell, we lost a lot of good people for nothing. Bush gave us the Mid East and that is still costing us. So I am somewhat jaded.

As to race I remember  when our school was integrated. Issac Robinson came out for football and he was one of the best on our team. On our way to El Paso to play a game we stopped in Portales NM for dinner. Issac was refused service and asked to leave the restaurant. We all got up and walked out with him. The owner could not change his mind quick enough and asked us all to come back. That was the day I understood the color green was more powerful than black, and that sticking up to what was fair was worth the effort.

Our class has had many outstanding and successful men and women. We also have had or share of less shining stars.One of my good childhood friends died in prison. So we have a mix of people top to bottom.

But, lets not speak bad of the dearly departed.

How to make America Great Again?  I don't believe that putting the wealth of our nation in the hands of the top 2 or 3% will get us close. Mexico did that for years and years and never did get Great Again, nor has any country with a small or weak middle class been very great.

I thnk that over the years our country has produced some great leaders in times of crisis but not messiahs, they are outstanding but still human with the same weakness we all have, so I don't worship them, or put them on pedestals, I   have deep respect for them and thanks for what they have done, but if our country evers starts thinking about kings or annointments by God we are in real trouble.

I think what made Borger good was the friendships developed. Friends are there and alway reach out with no questions asked. We all have them and that is one of the most important things we can posses.. When we reach out to help others as best we can, everyone becomes greater. Sounds corny I guess but the friends I am lucky to have helped me and still do. Haven't seen any messiahs get up close and personal.

Now I have shown by limited intelligence, but do appreciate you very much. Bob West

 

 


07/04/19 08:29 AM #36    

 

Lester Dan Langley

Bob--Your stories or parables get at the essence of these questions that have been dogging this country from the beginning. Your suspicions of political leaders are not unusual; your frustration about their behavior, eminently understandable. Recall the exchange between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris at the second Demo debate. Her critique was about his behavior, not of his character, and she framed her remarks about his relationship to his racist colleagues in a way that could be very effective: "This is a moral issue." Biden was left dangling in the wind. For that one moment, little in his estimable record on behalf of the downtrodden or forgotten or laboring people meant anything. Yet he learned the hard way about getting things done in politics. Like the cafe owner who wouldn't serve our black classmate, he wanted to get paid. But, perhaps there lingered in the cafe owner's conscience a tinge of guilt and after that incident he had no problem in serving people of color. Not only in religion but in other disciplines that deal with human behavior the debate over what motivates good versus bad behavior persists. My church and my Sunday school class remain divided between the conditionalists and the unconditionalists--as I understand it, those who believe that their spiritual afterlife can depend on their behavior and those who cling to the singular affirmation that faith alone is determining. At one time, I tried to be more analytical in my comments when the inherent problem between these groups intruded. Now, I just listen and perhaps relate a story about my lifelong anger toward my father and how, on recovering my soul, I could accept how his behavior was understandable and my feelings toward him, unChristian. Maybe I am too "circular" in my thinking, but I would like to go back and do it all over again. I could have been a better son. Maybe the second time around I can get a date with a cheerleader!


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